Monday, January 6, 2014

The Hypothetical Actions of Socrates and Descartes


 
When faced with any decision, there is often an opportunity to choose right and wrong.  However, sometimes the choice of right and wrong is blurred by one’s past actions and beliefs, obscuring the consistent stream of decisions made up until a recent choice.  Those who choose to remain consistent without any regard to the present situation affected by a choice may have given up a relationship to humanity and society.  This is the case with Euthyphro, Socrates, and Descartes.  In Plato’s work, The Trial and Death of Socrates, Euthyphro chooses to keep his principles and sacrifice his father’s life, just as Socrates would have done if he was in that position.  This appears to be true because Socrates sacrificed his life for his principles and believed death was not a bad thing.  Descartes’ commitments show that he would not have sided with Socrates in this situation because of his idea of indubitability in his work Meditations of first Philosophy. 

            Socrates sacrificed his life for his principles, just as Euthyphro sacrificed his father’s life for his principles, because they both were consistent in their decisions and passively allowed death to happen.  In Plato’s work The Trial and Death of Socrates Euthyphro said, “I say that the pious is to do what I am doing now, to prosecute the wrongdoer…whether the wrongdoer is your father or your mother or anyone else; not to prosecute is impious” (Plato 6).  This statement is an admittance of consistency, or a hope of future consistency, in Euthyphro’s belief in what is pious or impious.  There is no evidence in this statement to support the past actions of Euthyphro’s decision making, but it is an affirmation that from that point on, he will consistently decide to act on what he feels is impious.  The reader never finds out if Euthyphro went through with the trial and definitely had his father killed, but the assumption that this is what happened is a strong one from this statement.  Socrates showed his curiosity in Euthyphro’s idea of consistency when he said, “Come, try to show me a clear sign that all the gods definitely believe this action to be right” (Plato 10).  Socrates is looking for a consistency of what is pious or impious, and that Euthyphro’s decision to have his father killed is the right thing to do in the eyes of the gods.  This is nearly impossible to prove, as Socrates demonstrated when he talked circles around Euthyphro.  This quest for consistency leads both of these men to a standoff with death.  Socrates died over the consistency of things being inconsistent, and Euthyphro killed over the consistency of his poor example of piety.  However, in this situation Socrates would have done the same thing Euthyphro did for the sake of consistency. 

            The rigidity of this situation is extremely pressing.  The negotiations that took place to save the lives of Socrates and Euthyphro’s father were passive.  The reader never hears about the negotiation Euthyphro had with his father over his prosecution, but does hear the negotiation between Socrates and his prosecutors.  Socrates said, “Do you think I would have survived all these years if I were engaged in public affairs and, acting as a good man must, came to the help of justice and considered this the most important thing?  Far from it, men of Athens, nor would any other man” (Plato 35).  Socrates essentially admitted to hiding away for years to save his life because of what he believed in.  One cannot help thinking there is a difference in fighting for what one believes in and dying for what one believes in.  If Socrates were fighting for his beliefs, he would have been an actively aggressive presence within the leadership of Athens.  Yet it took Athens his whole lifespan to allow Socrates to die for his beliefs.  Socrates seems to be patiently waiting to die over something in which he never even put up a fight.  It is one thing to say words in one’s defense, but it is another to act in one’s defense.  Euthyphro puts his father in a similar situation.  Euthyphro said, “I think, Socrates, that on this subject no gods would differ from one another, that whoever has killed anyone unjustly should pay the penalty” (Plato 9).  This statement is complex in that Euthyphro is not a god, therefore has no jurisdiction to decide whether his father should be killed or not.  The only thing he can do is think about what the gods might believe to be pious and act in that way.  Euthyphro does not really have the right to sacrifice another man’s life over what he believes.  Socrates sacrifices his own life, which is his to decide with what he wants to do, but Euthyphro takes another man’s life, essentially making him a murderer.  The irony in this scene is that Euthyphro is killing someone for killing. 

            Socrates would have done the same thing because both these men believe in the power of principle.  Socrates said, “Some assert that they wrong one another, while others deny it, but no one among gods or men ventures to say that the wrongdoer must not be punished” (Plato 10).  Socrates meant that all beings believe wrongdoers must be punished for their actions.  It is not a question of who wronged who, but that someone must pay for a misdeed.  This conclusion is almost juvenile in its assumption because it is declaring punishment a necessity.  Instead of a corrective approach, punishment is the approach.  This can cause major issues within families, such as in Euthyphro’s case, because he killed his own father, his mother’s husband, and many other familial relationships.  People are more than just a single entity, and are always connected in webs of relationships and feelings.  By cutting the ties to his father, Euthyphro created a broken home and isolated himself.  Socrates loved the idea of controversy to learn and relate ideas, so his actions would have mirrored Euthyphro’s.  Socrates would have sacrificed his father’s life for his principles like Euthyphro and also believed that death was not a bad thing.

            In a general and primal sense, death is a situation that humans try to avoid.  However, Socrates believed that death was not a bad thing.  Socrates said, “Let us reflect in this way, too, that there is good hope that death is a blessing…If it is complete lack of perception, like a dreamless sleep, then death would be a great advantage” (Plato 41).  Socrates is curious to see what lies beyond the grave.  Thinking in this mindset, the idea of sending relatives to death is similar to sending them to bed.  Therefore, Euthyphro prosecuting his father is not as horrific to Socrates as it is to the reader.  Still, death is not a science experiment to be fooled with because once a decision is made, it cannot be retracted.  If Socrates were in the same position as Euthyphro with his father’s life on the line, Socrates would have him killed based on his principles as well as the idea that he is not really going to be killed, just moved on to another place.  Yet, think if entire populations of people held this idea.  People would commit mass suicide or mass murder in the attempt to make it to the next level.  It is a unique idea generated by a unique man.  That is why Socrates would have acted in the same way Euthyphro did, out of his unconventional idea that death is not so bad.  Socrates would have done the same thing as Euthyphro, while Descartes would not have sided with Socrates because of his idea of indubitability. 

            Given Descartes commitments, he would not have sided with Socrates because his idea of indubitability in his work Meditations on First Philosophy.  Without a doubt, Descartes would have wanted to know that Socrates was making the most truthful and accurate decision.  Descartes wrote, “But reason now persuades me that I should withhold my assent no less carefully from opinions that are not completely certain and indubitable than I would from those that are patently false” (Descartes 13).  Descartes was not even sure if he was living in a dream or not, so to place another man’s life in his hands would require a high standard of evidence and complete certainty for Descartes to act.  He would want to know for certain his actions were correct, but oftentimes that is an impossible task.  That is why the criminal court systems in the United States of America prosecute people to a level of beyond reasonable doubt, which is admittance that nothing can be one hundred percent accurate.  Descartes wrote, “However, I have noticed that the senses are sometimes deceptive; and it is a mark of prudence never to place our complete trust in those who have deceived us even once” (Descartes 14).  Descartes was talking about how there is no way to prove that a person is not living in a dream, and that human senses can be misleading.  This could also be related to authority figures.  Authority figures that deceive people once are never to be trusted again.  Therefore, by Socrates falling into the role of the victim by the authority figures of Athens, there is no way Descartes would have agreed with what Socrates and Euthyphro were doing because of the idea that authority figures cannot be trusted. 

            However, Descartes believed in a god.  Descartes wrote, “I understand by the name “God” a certain substance that is infinite, independent, supremely intelligent and supremely powerful, and that created me along with everything else that exists – if anything else exists” (Descartes 30).  He wrote of the infinite, and thought of the infinite after death.  Once again, to prove such a concept is nearly impossible, but since the idea was generated by a human, it is enough evidence to contemplate its existence.  The belief of the afterlife by Socrates and Descartes may be similar, but the way in which one gets to the afterlife would be disputed by the two men.  Descartes would not have sided with Socrates and Euthyphro because of the idea of indubitabilty.

            In life, decisions will always present themselves, perhaps even in ways that are too difficult to understand.  In Plato’s work, The Trial and Death of Socrates, Euthyphro chooses to keep his principles and sacrifice his father’s life, just as Socrates would have done if he was in that position.  Descartes’ commitments show that he would not have sided with Socrates in this situation because of his idea of indubitability in his work Meditations of first Philosophy.  Sometimes when one is faced with a decision, the only thing to do is go with one’s gut.  As humans, there is not much a person can do to control the universe.  It is always best to do what one feels is the right thing to do, because it is all we can do. 


Descartes, Rene. Meditations on First Philosophy. Trans. Donald A. Cress. 3rd ed.             Indianapolis/Cambridge: Hackett, 1993. Print.

Plato. The Trial and Death of Socrates. Trans. G. M. Grube. Ed. John M. Cooper. 3rd ed.                    Indianapolis/Cambridge: Hackett, 2000. Print.

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